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no 4 pin cpu connector from psu used on mobo, so what?
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hot july
2007-01-25 05:16:31 UTC
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About three weeks ago my power supply went out on my Asus mobo (p4s533 or
something like that). The asus mobo had a 4-pin cpu power connector from the
psu going to it. Well I had a spare psu that had no such 4 pin cpu connector
but I put it in anyway and the computer ran just fine. It's been running
fine for almost a month. Yesterday I turned comp on and got the "no signal"
display on the monitor, which suggests a cpu or psu problem to me. The mobo
does not beep when powered on either. No, nothing wrong with video card or
hdd. I need to know what, if any, damage could had been caused to the cpu by
not running the 4 pin power connector to it? Seems to me if there was a
problem, it just wouldnt boot, sort of like now :) But it did run fine for
three weeks without the connector, so I don't get it.

A link to the pic of the 4 pin connector is below if you need to know for
sure what I am talking about.


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Rob
2007-01-25 13:14:21 UTC
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Post by hot july
About three weeks ago my power supply went out on my Asus mobo (p4s533 or
something like that). The asus mobo had a 4-pin cpu power connector from
the psu going to it. Well I had a spare psu that had no such 4 pin cpu
connector but I put it in anyway and the computer ran just fine. It's been
running fine for almost a month. Yesterday I turned comp on and got the
"no signal" display on the monitor, which suggests a cpu or psu problem to
me. The mobo does not beep when powered on either. No, nothing wrong with
video card or hdd. I need to know what, if any, damage could had been
caused to the cpu by not running the 4 pin power connector to it? Seems to
me if there was a problem, it just wouldnt boot, sort of like now :) But
it did run fine for three weeks without the connector, so I don't get it.
Check the condition of the ATX power connector from the PSU,
and the mobo ATX power socket it goes in to, and look for any
discoloration or melting etc. The 4-pin CPU power connector is there
so that the CPU doesn't have to pull as much power through the mobo
PCB tracks, and if you don't fit it, it can overload the ATX connector.
If they look OK, there's a good chance the PSU you put in there
has gone t*ts-up, as PSUs without the 4-pin connector are probably
quite old and not up the the job on mobo's that have such a connector
fitted.
Worst-case scenario is that a PCB track has burnt through - new
mobo needed, if that's the case. :(
HTH,
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Rob
Barry Watzman
2007-01-25 14:43:25 UTC
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You should not have used that old supply. That connector is the ATX12V
connector, which is the main power supply for the CPU.

On some motherboards, it's the only connection of power to the CPU and
the system won't run (at all) without it.

In other systems, the ATX12V socket is still jumpered to the main 20-pin
(or 24-pin) connector, and the system will run but may be unstable.
Presumably, your motherboard is in this category.

There are a number of possibilities here, ranging from no damage at all
to destruction of the motherboard and/or CPU (you could also have
"blown" the interconnection between the ATX12V connector and the main
20-pin connector within the motherboard foils .... which although it
sounds bad, might simply mean that from now on, ONLY a power supply with
a "real" ATX12V connector will work).

You will just have to try things to see what the damage is. Starting
with a new power supply.
Post by hot july
About three weeks ago my power supply went out on my Asus mobo (p4s533 or
something like that). The asus mobo had a 4-pin cpu power connector from the
psu going to it. Well I had a spare psu that had no such 4 pin cpu connector
but I put it in anyway and the computer ran just fine. It's been running
fine for almost a month. Yesterday I turned comp on and got the "no signal"
display on the monitor, which suggests a cpu or psu problem to me. The mobo
does not beep when powered on either. No, nothing wrong with video card or
hdd. I need to know what, if any, damage could had been caused to the cpu by
not running the 4 pin power connector to it? Seems to me if there was a
problem, it just wouldnt boot, sort of like now :) But it did run fine for
three weeks without the connector, so I don't get it.
A link to the pic of the 4 pin connector is below if you need to know for
sure what I am talking about.
http://i10.tinypic.com/29kwduq.jpg
[IMG]http://i10.tinypic.com/29kwduq.jpg[/IMG]
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